To all the Tumblr users who tend to use tags very liberally:
Anonymous asked: Rape is rape, please don't try to differentiate. It's like trying to say that a slave held in chains is HUGELY different than a slave held by the knowledge that their master is capable of hurting them and has the support of his community/society. Being held down and raped is more dramatic but being trapped by the knowledge that your abuser would win in the end is just as real and just as terrifying.
hey anon I really didn’t mean to sound like I endorse any kind of rape, violent or coercive or otherwise, so I apologize for that because I totally agree with you. I am astoundingly bad at articulating myself
but I don’t think the book scene with Jaime and Cersei is rape whatsoever
Yes because jaime would totally rape cersei
the jaime that felt sick at the sound of hearing rhaella targaryen raped
the jaime that also felt sick after he heard of ellia and her babies being brutally murdered
THE JAIME THAT GOT HIS HAND CUT OFF SAVING HIS FRIEND FROM BEING RAPED
THE JAIME THAT SAID HE WOULD RATHER DIE IF HE WAS A WOMAN THAN LET SOMEONE RAPE HIM
on another note this is a really good article about all this shit re: rape in game of thrones
Anonymous asked: I'd just like to point out that the book scene was NOT enthusiastic consent. "No" means "no" not "put your dick in me and ask again." Speaking as someone who's been in a similar situation it feels safer both physically and emotionally to start to go along with it. It makes the rapist happier (i.e. less likely to be violent) and it helps you convince yourself that it's okay and that the man you love didn't violate you and take away your autonomy.
yeah on another look I see what you mean. I was looking at the latter half - where cersei is saying yes and guiding jaime to her - instead of the first half, where she is protesting because she’s worried about being caught. My first opinion on it was the cliche “yeah she wanted it though even though she was saying no” which is a really shitty opinion to have. Still I’m not sure if I can call the book scene rape? A little questionable, but not rape? I’m not well-versed on these issues though so if I am wildly miscalculated, I apologize.
In any case, HUGELY different from the all-out rape of the show but I see where you are coming from, anon. Thankyou for your comment.
Anonymous asked: So you're upset by this rape scene but not any of the others that have occurred previously? Where were you seasons 1-3?
It’s not the fact that there is rape occuring - that shit is all over the books (I was a little mad about dany and drogo’s first sex scene being rape as opposed to consensual in the books, but I accepted it because their relationship is skeevy consensual-wise anyways).
If a character is an established rapist, and they rape another character, that is disturbing but in-character. What I am upset about is the fact that this is wildly out of character. Jaime is not a rapist, that sex scene was not a rape scene in the books, but they made it a rape scene for NO REASON and ditched Jaime’s character arc in doing so.
Anonymous asked: is it stupid to just pretend that scene didn't happen lalalala everything went as written and that episode wasn't the worst one they ever made *cries*
it’s 4/20 so maybe we are all mad high and had some crazy mass collective hallucination…. RIGHT…..